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The Path to Getting Unstuck | Britt Frank (ep. 578)

Britt Frank

John O’Leary welcomes Britt Frank to the Live Inspired Podcast to guide us a patch to get unstuck by using micro-yesses.

Britt Frank is a trauma specialist, licensed psychotherapist, and author of The Science of Stuck.

Committed to unraveling the myths that keep us stuck and stressed, Britt offers a fresh perspective on mental health and well-being.

Drawing from her personal story of struggle, insightful clinical research, and the powerful concept of “micro-yesses,” Britt joins us for a down-to-earth conversation that will boldly inspire you to break through whatever is holding you back in life.

My friends, no matter how successful or high achieving, everyone experiences moments of stagnation or feelings of being stuck in our lives—in our relationships, careers, our bodies, habits, and more. This conversation is for you.

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  • From stuck to go: Britt reminds us that it’s not laziness, craziness, or lack of capacity but instead real mechanics that get us stuck.
  • It wasn’t until Britt developed disordered eating, drug addictions and chaotic and damaging relationships patterns later in life that she realized the trauma she endured as a child.
  • “I felt like I got sent out of the human factory with pieces missing.”
  • “I understand the appeal of being told what to do so you can feel finally like you belong somewhere.” Expecting an instant access to family, connection and belonging, Britt joined a religious cult that she soon learned was not sustainable.
  • Britt reminds us that disordered eating, drug addictions and other behaviors are always about unaddressed pain and an injury that has been left so profoundly unattended that our systems adapt by finding ways.”
  • Rock bottom doesn’t have to be the extreme. Britt defines “rock bottom” as when you say, “I’m done” and start doing things differently.
  • Be truthful about yourself for yourself.
  • Instead of being fearful of our “intrusive thoughts”, Britt encourages us to skillfully lead our inner teams.
  • “Why is there a gap between what we know and what we do? Because we’re at war with ourselves.”
  • Micro-yesses: A series of tiny yeses builds a life.
  • “Anxiety is a superpower. Without it, we stay stuck. Madness need not be all break down. It may also be break-through.” – Britt Frank and R.D. Liang
  • If you’re dealing with anxiety, don’t ask “why”, ask “what”. What am I willing to say yes to? What are my choices?
  • Britt finds that most people don’t want to know why they’re stuck but how to not be stuck.
  • To illustrate the idea that there’s no such thing as “crazy”, Britt calls upon the “spiderweb analogy”.
  • Shadow intelligence is a  measure of the relationship we have with our imperfections, triggers, and unconscious content.
  • “You can’t think your way out of being stuck.”
  • “An explanation is not an excuse of a behavior.”
  • “You can’t change anything about your past but you can change everything about your future when you understand how your brain processes the present.”
  • Get a copy of Britt Frank’s The Science of Stuck here.

Did you enjoy today’s conversation?

You’ll love my conversation with Jeff Henderson.  Jeff Henderson is an expert at taking the next right step when life is uncertain. Learn the difference between success and excellence as Jeff outlines how to reduce the risk yet not be bounded by fear in a season of change. Listen to Jeff Henderson on ep. 490.


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  1. Q. What is the best book you’ve ever read?
    A. The Artist's Way by Julia Cameron.
  2. Q. What is a characteristic or trait that you possessed as a child that you wish you still exhibited today?
    A. Being able and willing to sing and dance without caring what other people think.
  3. Q. Your house is on fire, all living things and people are out. You have the opportunity to run in and grab one item. What would it be?
    A. A box of cutout pictures of myself as a child where I can see the pain on her face.
  4. Q. You are sitting on a bench overlooking a gorgeous beach. You have the opportunity to have a long conversation with anyone living or dead. Who would it be?

    My husband, Mike.

  5. Q. What is the best advice you’ve ever received?
    A. From Mike, "So what?" when I give any objection, and my first therapist that told me I'm not crazy.
  6. Q. What advice would you give your 20-year-old self?

    It gets way better.

  7. Q. It’s been said that all great people can have their lives summed up in one sentence. How do you want yours to read?
    A. She lived.