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Perfectly Hidden Depression | Dr. Margaret Rutherford (ep. 636)

Dr Margaret Rutherford

John O’Leary welcomes Dr. Margaret Rutherford on the Live Inspired Podcast to discuss perfectionism and how to break free from the cage of perfectly hidden depression.

Dr. Margaret Rutherford is a clinical psychologist, author and host of The SelfWork Podcast. She focuses on helping others lead healthier mental and emotional lives.

Today, Dr. Margaret shares how living through her “lost decade” taught her resilience, hope and the transformational power of being more transparent with one another. Known for coining the term “perfectly hidden depression”, Dr. Margaret also shares how to break free from the cage of perfectionism and quiet our critical inner voice.

My friends, this conversation is about more than leading healthy mental and emotions lives… it’s about embracing the gift of life in all its shades.

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  1. Q. What is the best book you’ve ever read?
    A. Man's Search for Meaning by Viktor Frankl and Wouldn't Take Nothing for My Journey Now by Maya Angelou.
  2. Q. What is a characteristic or trait that you possessed as a child that you wish you still exhibited today?
    A. My spontaneity.
  3. Q. Your house is on fire, all living things and people are out. You have the opportunity to run in and grab one item. What would it be?
    A. A $20 bill from my father to "go get some gas".
  4. Q. You are sitting on a bench overlooking a gorgeous beach. You have the opportunity to have a long conversation with anyone living or dead. Who would it be?
    A. My grandfather Robinson who I never met.
  5. Q. What is the best advice you’ve ever received?
    A. Don't be scared.
  6. Q. What advice would you give your 20-year-old self?
    A. Fight harder. Be more assertive about who I knew I really was.
  7. Q. It’s been said that all great people can have their lives summed up in one sentence. How do you want yours to read?
    A. She gave of her joy, her caring and her heart.