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John O’Leary welcomes burnout expert Erin Stafford on the Live Inspired Podcast to share practical tactics on how to move toward a renewed excitement and engagement with life.

Erin Stafford is a burnout and peak-performance expert who surrounded herself with some of the most motivated, ambitious, famous overachievers in the world.

And yet, even these leaders suffer from severe cases of burnout as they struggle to adjust to a post-pandemic world and the pressures it put on their personal and professional lives.

With 52% of all workers feeling burned out and 67% saying their burnout has only gotten worse over the last two years, the fact is we’re pushing harder and covering less distance than ever before. This exhaustion is making us feel unhappy, unfulfilled and frustrated, and leads to less creativity and less focus in our goals.

Today, Erin shares how to recognize the signs of burnout, the steps to avoid it and how to bounce forward in work, relationships, faith journeys… and beyond.

My friends, if you’re looking for a conversation to help you or someone you love move beyond exhaustion and burnout to renewed excitement and engagement with life, this episode is for you.

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  • Attending the American University of Paris with only 700 fellow students of a hundred different nationalities, Erin was grateful to be in a culturally diverse environment during her formative years.
  • “I can’t yoga and acupuncture my way out of this.” With the pressure of working in healthcare staffing during the pandemic and numerous other personal stressors, Erin began to recognize the reality of burnout.
  • Packing her schedule with all the tools and tactics , Erin looked at recovering from burnout is like the next thing she was going to accomplish instead of slowing down and making the proper mental shifts.
  • “The things that help us be successful are the very things that can cause us to burn out.”
  • If we don’t change our mindsets and our behavior, we’re  just postponing the burnout. Like exercise, Erin reminds us that we’ve got to make all of these small adjustments throughout our life for the rest of our life, if we want to continue to stay healthy and fulfilled without burning out.
  • Build moments of Proactive Rest throughout your day to prevent exhaustion and burnout.
    • Shortening 60 minute meetings to 50 minutes and encourage your team to use those 10 minutes to grab coffee, get fresh air and regroup.
    • Have your kids carpool to school with someone else.
    • Turn off the music on the drive home to give your nervous system a rest.
  • Decoding your flow: Instead of trying to master everything, Erin encourages us to focus our energy towards things that we’re good at and that bring joy.
  • Build a personal board of directors that have expertise in different areas of life, and look to them next time you need help.
  • Pivot like a pro: To get out ruts, pivoting with small shifts can lead to dramatic change.
  • Take a victory lap and create a “win” box, a folder in your email of compliments that you can refer when you need a boost of confidence. Kickstart your win box by sending an email to someone in your life who you’ve been appreciative and thankful for in the last five days.
  • Are you approaching burnout? Recognize that it can happen to you and begin implementing proactive rest.
  • What is better for my health? Written on a Post-It note during the throes of her burnout, Erin asked herself this question numerous times throughout the day to help her focus on the most important task.
  • Get a copy of Erin Stafford’s The Type A Trap here.

Did you enjoy today’s episode? 

You’ll love my conversation with Dr. Mike Rucker. Hear Mike share how intentionally increasing joyful moments can improve your health, relationships, and productivity, while also providing specific guidance to help you make the most of your time and create more space for having fun. Listen to Dr. Mike Rucker on ep. 532.


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  1. Q. What is the best book you’ve ever read?
    A. Rich Dad Poor Dad by Robert Kiyosaki.
  2. Q. What is a characteristic or trait that you possessed as a child that you wish you still exhibited today?
    A. I feel like I'm so similar to who I was when I was a kid so I'm going to answer this slightly differently and say one of my favorite traits about myself is that I am optimistic and resilient.
  3. Q. Your house is on fire, all living things and people are out. You have the opportunity to run in and grab one item. What would it be?
    A. Photo albums.
  4. Q. You are sitting on a bench overlooking a gorgeous beach. You have the opportunity to have a long conversation with anyone living or dead. Who would it be?
    A. My uncle Jerry.
  5. Q. What is the best advice you’ve ever received?
    A. When my uncle Jerry would have a bad day, he's treat himself to a nice lunch, declare victory, reassess, recharge and carry on about his day in a new direction.
  6. Q. What advice would you give your 20-year-old self?
    A. You don't have to be in such a hurry.
  7. Q. It’s been said that all great people can have their lives summed up in one sentence. How do you want yours to read?
    A. She lived an interesting life and helped others lead interesting lives.