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John O’Leary welcomes Sloane Crosley on the Live Inspired Podcast to share her personal journey through loss and provide others with hope and guidance.

Sloane Crosley is the New York Times bestselling author of essay collections I Was Told There’d Be Cake and How Did You Get This Number, and is known for her sharp wit, keen observations and relatable humor.

Today, Sloane joins us to discuss her latest book Grief is For People, and shares her personal journey through loss after a close friend’s suicide. Through her unique storytelling, she navigates the complicated and painful process of grief, offering solace and challenge to those grappling with loss.

My friends, if you or someone you love is in need of healing, this conversation will provide hope and guidance.

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  • Growing up in White Plains, New York, Sloane thought she’d become an archeologist or curator for the Metropolitan Museum of Art.
  • “But the problem is that our capacity to handle something shocking in the short term can make things indistinguishable in the long run. You become numb when you swallow too much sadness at once.”
  • Grief is sneaky: Sloane reminds us that the heaviest load of grief comes long after others stop expressing their condolences and encourages us to consider setting a check-in reminder for a month after someone you love has suffered a loss.
  • “You think your pain and your heartbreak are unprecedented in the history of the world, but then you read” – James Baldwin, writer and civil rights activist
  • Get a copy of Sloane Crosley’s book Grief is For People here.

If you or someone you know is experiencing a mental health crisis, please reach out for help. Call or text 988 to get connected to the National Suicide Prevention Lifeline.

Did you enjoy today’s conversation? 

Tune into my conversation with grief expert Amy Florian. Determined to heal after her own devastating pain, Amy began her lifelong mission to help others recover from life’s crushing losses. As a certified thanatologist and a leading expert on death, loss, grief, aging and transition, Amy’s practical and insightful work has been crucial in helping others navigate life’s toughest times. Amy’s groundbreaking work on grief, including loss that others may not deem worthy of grief, will liberate you to heal, dare you to fully live and love fiercely. Listen to Amy Florian on ep. 496.


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  1. Q. What is the best book you’ve ever read?
    A. Dubliners by James Joyce.
  2. Q. What is a characteristic or trait that you possessed as a child that you wish you still exhibited today?
    A. Fearlessness.
  3. Q. Your house is on fire, all living things and people are out. You have the opportunity to run in and grab one item. What would it be?
    A. Some of the recovered jewelry from the robbery.
  4. Q. You are sitting on a bench overlooking a gorgeous beach. You have the opportunity to have a long conversation with anyone living or dead. Who would it be?
    A. Bob Dylan.
  5. Q. What is the best advice you’ve ever received?
    A. You don't have to wait to be great.
  6. Q. What advice would you give your 20-year-old self?
    A. Wear a bikini.
  7. Q. It’s been said that all great people can have their lives summed up in one sentence. How do you want yours to read?
    A. The genius in the room is the one most like himself. - Thelonious Monk